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nada gracias rorolfc x avisarme antes q nada xD

despeus es una verguenza!

sacan un parche antes q el juego este a la venta

realemnte me parese una total falta de seriedad

Here is a list of all the fixes, as ever we suggest starting a new game to get the most out of the changes however the patch is save game compatible

General

+ Tuning of young player physical progression

+ Spanish regenerated players and virtual players do not get given common names as much.

+ Goalkeeping coaches now do not have high ratings for other coaching types.

+ Loan players who have a "cannot play in cup matches" clause, can play in competitions which their main team are not entered for.

+ Arsenal now use their red and white home top from the 2006 season onwards.

+ Slovenian wages tuned.

+ Mental attributes and happiness have more effect on training levels

+ Ensured team talk slight concerns get cleared down for loan players who have been loaned from non_selected leagues.

+ Toned down severe post-match player morale changes, this ensures players take at least a couple of good matches to go from poor/very poor morale to very good/superb morale and vice versa

+ Ensured human managers don't get criticised for not praising thier own players when in fact they have left team-talks to their assistant managers.

+ Stopped "grey team managers" being given negative attributes and therefore sabotaging their own teams causing some very big defeats.

+ Teams in the same division should not have the potential for a giant-killing news story even if one is semi-pro and one is pro.

+ Prevented board/fans/former club favourite/current player congratulations news items from appearing after a team has qualified for the Uefa Cup via the Intertoto Cup

+ Adjusted the increase / decrease of human manager visible attributes.

+ Reduced inflation of price clubs are willing to pay for a player based on domestic average rating.

+ Ensured assistant coach/manager can't give feedback on himself.

+ Some tweaks to coach and team reports.

+ Monaco virtual players now have French nationality instead of having Monaco set as their nation.

+ Fixed stadium expansion bug where team would sometimes not move back to their old stadium once it was finished.

+ Fixed problem where some players would start the first season with stats from the previous year

+ Fixed second nationalities for regens - previously weren't getting set properly.

+ Fixed problem with caretakers manager's hanging around for ages without being offered the job or a replacement being found

+ Fixed differing time periods for injury between profile and physio report

+ Fixed players reaction to manager mind-games not showing up on client machines when playing network game.

+ Fixed receiving news story stating Liverpool fifth times when should be sixth times champions.

+ Fixed cases of manager being hired from within the club having the wrong 'time in charge' stat

+ Fixed players on loan at a club who are signing for them at a later date (e.g. Laurent Robert) getting wrong player_bio about them.

+ Fixed a bug where you can fine a player who is on loan to you and he will get upset with the club that owns the player.

Interface

+ Injury league table not filled in for domestic leagues that had finished.

+ Squad screen filters now filter WB L/DM © players correctly.

+ You now have to pick a goalkeeper in quick tactics like you do in detailed tactics.

+ Added "Help" to the Mac menu bar to follow standard behaviour on the platform.

+ Help for "offer to clubs" now shows the correct information (instead of the "transfer offer " page).

+ Pressing the escape key now closes the help dialog.

+ Training section "attributes" list could display slightly different values than the player profile.

+ Improved goal net graphics.

+ 3rd placed Royal League teams displayed the 3rd placed team order instead of the proper group they were in.

+ Used "Far" as short text for both "attack far post" and "stand on far post".

+ Squad filters for teams works for b-teams if user is browsing the game without having added a human player.

+ "Release comment" section disappeared when you clicked on another section of a player (before you had confirmed the comment).

+ You were able to change some tactical settings from the full time team talks.

+ If you used quick flicks to go to next team while on your own tactics section you might end up seeing their instructions.

+ Referees now show a 'Based' city (if city is known) instead of showing an unknown city of birth on their profile.

+ Clicking 'View Draw' might not take you to the results of the draw if you viewed a different section of the same competition.

+ Minimum fee release clause was not visible while making a transfer offer for players in countries where this is mandatory (Spain).

+ Substituting a player at half time would initially leave his overall team talk at "None" until you it again.

+ Sometimes players were duplicated in part-exchange offers in the "Transfer listed" menu on the "Add" button.

+ Can now give team talks to players who were substituted.

+ Added more printing functionality to panels like Match Report, Match Stats, Home

+ Player instructions "swap player" (outfield) and "distribute to" (goalkeeper) did not remember settings if set outside a match.

+ In-match tactic panel updates the tactic title on the right panel properly.

+ If you were in control of both a nation and a club, using the quick flicks did not go anywhere.

+ If you were controlling a nation and a club, the context of the national FA confidence was the club and not the nation.

+ Corrected "Upcoming Fixtures" to "Fixtures & Results" on the manager home section.

+ In rare cases the player profile would display "-" for form even when the player had valid form.

+ Player histories did not show season year properly for clubs where season overlaps the new year (2004-05 format).

+ Go On Holiday dialog could have the "reject all offers as well as another item selected (they're mutually exclusive).

+ Go On Holiday dialog "Return from holiday after:" N days edit box layout fixed.

+ Inputting extended characters using AltGr (or Alt+Control) did not work.

+ Pasting a single character from the clipboard to an edit box did not work (multiple characters did).

+ Continue game timeout does not get used when a manager is making a team talk after the match.

+ Reset requested scroll position when loading new HTML screen.

+ Fixed wrong team being used in news item stating reasons for transfer delay being refused.

+ Fixed exchange players showing up on news item but not on transfer offer screen

+ Fixed home page snapshot of K-League (displayed opening stage intead of combined league).

+ Fixed Belgian lower divisions snapshot (displayed opening stage and not combined league).

+ Fixed possible crash browsing through teams staff list using the Quick Flicks.

+ Fixed potential crash on European World Cup qualifiers second placed teams table if clicking on team position to see progress.

+ Fixed some duplicate news items.

+ Being able to deselect the 'Index' panel in the tutorial by reclicking on the 'Index' button.

+ Fixed every second seperator line in tree view items being slightly longer than the others

Competitions

+ Scottish league cup ties are now seeded properly.

+ Fixed some issues with the CONCACAF Champions League when MLS is not a selected league.

+ Mexican teams now do not register too many foreign players.

+ Implemented English Conference changes for 2006/07 season.

+ Mexican First Division groups are now correct for 2005.

+ Prize money removed from Serbia and Montenegro Cup.

+ Manager snapshot panel now shows full stage name in the competitions panel. E.g. North Semi Final instead of Semi Final

+ All-Ireland Cup now stores past years correctly.

+ Teams from 2006 African World Cup qualifiers do not qualify to the 2008 African Nations Cup any more.

+ Some English FA Cup prize money amounts fixed.

+ Hong Kong AFC Playoff now gets scheduled once all of the domestic competitions have finished.

+ Ramat-Hasharon now deducted 2 points in 2005 Israeli National League.

+ Spanish teams now start playing friendlies earlier.

+ All Ireland cup now uses refs from Ireland or N. Ireland.

+ European player awards tunning

+ Greek player of the year problem fixed.

+ Greek foreign player of the year problem fixed

+ Player winning more than one seasonal award fix

+ Attacking bias added to seasonal player awards.

+ Some fixes for managers withdrawing players from international friendlies

+ Australian players no longer win Asian awards.

+ Award winner news item appears after player thanks manager news item.

+ Fixed string error (australian pre match odds news) declaring league as being finished when it hasn't.

+ Fixed some fixture dates in England for non World Cup/Euro Championship years.

Match

+ When 2 human managers are playing each other in a match, the game now shows both team talk screens at the end of the match instead of just the one.

+ When a human changed the order of his penalty takers just before a shootout, the score would sometimes not be stored properly when the result gets processed.

+ Fixed a match screen crash which would sometimes happen after making quick tactic changes.

+ If a human manager leaves a match (goes on holiday, disconnects from network game, etc), the assistant manager will now make tactical changes in his place.

+ Fixed bug where the view menu on the tactics screen might be disabled for a second human manager on the same machine.

Transfers

+ Starting foreign loans are now not treated as domestic loans for English teams when counting the number of loans done so far.

+ Fixed bug where occassionally the game might forget to process a future transfer.

+ Fixed a bug where national teams would sometimes appoint a director as their new manager.

+ Players signed after a club has finished its season, now get put on holiday.

Mac Specific

+ Fixed some keyboard shortcuts in the help dialog.

+ Fixed possible problem with cpu idle when re-activating the application during a match.

+ Fixed Mac keyboard shortcut for Preferences to conform to standard Mac shortcut.

Assets

- ADDED Livingston player pictures

- Fixed Scott Thomson (Dunfermline) picture mapping to the wrong Scott Thomson

- ADDED Nottingham Forest player pictures

- Fixed Cardiff pictures (Darren Purse, Jeff Whitley, Joe Ledley and Neal Ardley)

- Fixed Stafford Rangers player pictures (Peter Thomson)

- Fixed Blackpool badge

- Fixed Rotherham kits not displaying

- Fixed Daejeon kits not displaying in first season

- Fixed Joao Goncalves FaceInTheGame picture

Data Editor

- Fixed potential crash on the squad screen

- Fixed manager preferred formations sometimes defaulting to 442

Tutorial Note

The tutorial will only display properly in the languages installed with the Retail CD.

BAJALO DE ACA!!!

http://www.sigames.com/downloads.php?type=view&id=357

Pues prefiero un parche antes de ke me instale el juego ke despues, ke kieres ke te diga. Los juegos sin fallos no existen

Yo hubiese preferido que retrasen algunos dias la salida para corregir estos errores.

Me parece muy poco serio de parte de SiGames

Pues no puedo descargarlo xD tocará esperar xD

No es tan facil retrasar cuando tienes un cronograma de distribucion, lleva tiempo enviar al que 'quema', armar cajas, embalar y distribuir, para eso se ponen fechas/plazos, (proceso explicado en terminos sencillos).

Si se espera hasta que el ultimo forero quede satisfecho y no haya encontrado mas detallitos, no salen mas y se los come, primero los 'clientes' y luego la competencia, seamos sinceros, en el tema software es muy raro que algo salga 100% de entrada, consideremos que esto apunta a algo mas que un simple juego de arcade, es o intenta ser un simulador.

Ojo, no estoy diciendo ni avalando que se saque cualquier cosa porque si y a las apuradas, que se saque algo que se cuelga a cada rato o directamente que no funcione, el programa es utilizable al salir de su caja, sin patches.

Otra cosa es que algun dato de algun jugador no este correcto (y siempre seran apreciaciones), o que alguno opine que tal o cual funcion (ponga aqui, tactica, como el juego simula los tiros de esquina, u otras, ...) debio haber sido realizada de tal o cual forma, eso no invalida ni al juego ni al que lo hizo (nuevamente, son apreciaciones), despues de todo fue gracias a su esfuerzo (no olvidemos que ellos desarrollaron el producto, no nosotros) que obtenemos el producto y lo disfrutamos.

Que podamos sugerir para futuras versiones, cambios haciendoles notar que quizas no eligieron el mejor metodo en determinados casos, es ciertamente posible, pero no quita que este sea, reitero, jugable.

Saludes.

Bueh.. peor hubiera sido comenzar una partida y que este toda falluta.

En cambio ahora tenes el patch y podes empezar a jugar sin los bugs que este soluciona.

¿Pero este parche irá incluido con el juego que sale a la venta? Si no me parece una idiotez de mil pares de cojones. Vamos, yo no tengo internet y me compro ese juego y demando a la empresa hasta que me devuelve el dinero y el tiempo gastado en comprarlo.

Claro Moi, no esta incluido en el juego... por eso croe que lo publicaron YA.

Como dije, no soy conformalista, y como consumidor del juego estoy muy decepcionado.

No exijo que no salgan actualizaciones, pero no a esta altura.

Es una verguenza y una falta de capacidad total de Sigames. Aqui en Argentina, me sale 100 pesos, y mi sueldo es de 400... Entonces por lo menos exijo las cosas serias.

A ver. El juego es entregado un mes antes de ke llegue a nuestras casas. Han estado un mes encontrando fallos y actualizando cosas. Es imposible sacar un juego perfecto.

Tenemos la suerte de ke podremos jugar con muchos fallos arreglados sin ke nos jodan la partida. Creo ke el ke se keja es pk no sabe como funciona esto. Kizas sea una putada por los ke no tienen internet y todo esto pero seamos sinceros, con las demas compañias es aun peor.

No seamos alarmistas por favor, Chief lo ha explicado muy bien. Leer su post antes de decir barbaridades por decir. Es de los post mas sensatos ke he leido recientemente.

Gracias Chief por tu punto de vista

Vamos a ver. El juego se entrega un mes antes y todo lo que quieras. Pero en mi opinión, su "ética" profesional les tiene que obligar a sacar el juego más perfeccionado posible. Si encontraron esos bugs y sacaron ese parche es porque los había. Haber retrasado ese mes la entrega del juego o haber examinado el juego un mes más antes de lanzarlo al mercado. De todas formas, vale que Sigames saque juego realmente buenos comparados con muchas birrias que salen al mercado, como pudo ser el PC Fútbol 2005...

Pero coño, tienen que pensar en los usuarios sin internet... No se puede estar sacando 5 parches cada año para que el juego sea realmente bueno y valga el dinero que pago.

Edito:

De todas formas, Chief lo ha explicado muy bien. Pero ponte en el lugar de un consumidor que ve que gana siempre la Champions League aunque su equipo sea de Tercera División... O todo lo contrario, que no gana un partido ni con el Chelsea. Que en muchos Championship's Manager pasaba esto... Ganar como si nada... Incluso en el FM2005 era así.

Esto es un negocio. Tienen competencia. Ellos necesitan ganar dinero para poder seguir creando juegos. Si esperan un mes les comen mercado se arruinan y adios al FM. Si sacan el juego y atienden a todas las peticiones de los foreros y arreglan cosas ganan dinero, pisan a la competencia y la mayoria tenemos un juego a nuestro gusto

Se la faena ke es para muchos pero piensa una cosa, las demas compañias lo jacen AUN PEOR

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